Ticket #4571 (new enhancement)

Opened 4 months ago

Last modified 7 weeks ago

Modernize user menu

Reported by: eugenesan Owned by:
Priority: major Milestone: 4.8.33
Component: mc-core Version: master
Keywords: Cc:
Blocked By: Blocking: #2701, #3290, #3442
Branch state: no branch Votes for changeset:

Description

I've been working on modernizing the default user menu and decided to share it here.

First patch changes the default spacing in menu items.
The second patch:

  1. Removes archaic news and latex related items
  2. Reworks tarball options to support bare tarball, improve compressed tarballs
  3. Add support for regular archives (supported by 7z, which is most of them)
  4. Add support for compressing/un-compressing of more variants
  5. Add compression conversion
  6. Add hashing, git, vidir, ncdu, tail and mcdiff options

Feel free to adjust if I removed something people actually.

P.S.
From my previous experience using this ticket tracker, I never get notifications.
Do I need to do anything special to enable mail notifications for tickets?

P.P.S.
I chose mc-skin as a component. Wasn't sure where user menu fits.

Attachments

0001-menu-Reduce-menu-ittems-width-to-allow-longer-text.patch (9.5 KB) - added by eugenesan 4 months ago.
0001-menu-drop-archaic-and-add-modern-archival-options.patch (19.4 KB) - added by eugenesan 4 months ago.
0001-menu-drop-archaic-items-modernize-archival-options-v2.patch (20.0 KB) - added by eugenesan 4 months ago.
0001-menu-drop-archaic-items-modernize-archival-options-v4.patch (23.3 KB) - added by eugenesan 4 months ago.
0001-menu-drop-archaic-items-modernize-archival-options-v5.patch (28.1 KB) - added by eugenesan 3 months ago.
New version of the patch with 7z binary detection and various fixes
0001-menu-drop-archaic-items-modernize-archival-options-v6.patch (36.5 KB) - added by eugenesan 3 months ago.
Updated version of the main patch with more compression options, fixes, improvments and shortcuts reorganization
0001-menu-optional-gui-tools.patch (1.6 KB) - added by eugenesan 3 months ago.
Optional patch to add various GUI tools
0001-menu-drop-archaic-items-modernize-archival-options-v7.patch (36.5 KB) - added by eugenesan 3 months ago.
Updated version of the main patch with various fixes
0001-menu-drop-archaic-items-modernize-archival-options-v8.patch (38.0 KB) - added by eugenesan 3 months ago.
Updated version of the main patch with "which" replacement and shasum preference reversal (non-perl version is 2x faster)
0001-menu-drop-archaic-items-modernize-archival-options-v9.patch (38.1 KB) - added by eugenesan 3 months ago.
Last minute fix
0001-menu-drop-archaic-items-modernize-archival-options-v9-full.patch (1.7 KB) - added by eugenesan 3 months ago.
Latest optional patch with addition of GUI tools
Screenshot 2024-10-23 at 07.54.06.png (1.7 MB) - added by zaytsev 7 weeks ago.

Change History

comment:1 Changed 4 months ago by andrew_b

  • Component changed from mc-skin to mc-core

comment:2 Changed 4 months ago by andrew_b

Related to #3442.

comment:3 follow-up: ↓ 5 Changed 4 months ago by zaytsev

From my previous experience using this ticket tracker, I never get notifications.

I have fixed them in #4557 - are you still not getting anything?

comment:4 follow-up: ↓ 6 Changed 4 months ago by zaytsev

Few comments:

Compress the current subdirectory (tar.xz using 7z)

Why do you want to offer this alternative? (honest question)

sha512sum

At least on Mac this doesn't exist, can you use a fallback to shasum -a512 ?

comment:5 in reply to: ↑ 3 Changed 4 months ago by eugenesan

Replying to zaytsev:

From my previous experience using this ticket tracker, I never get notifications.

I have fixed them in #4557 - are you still not getting anything?

It's working now. Thank you for fixing it!

comment:6 in reply to: ↑ 4 ; follow-up: ↓ 9 Changed 4 months ago by eugenesan

Replying to zaytsev:

Few comments:

Compress the current subdirectory (tar.xz using 7z)

Why do you want to offer this alternative? (honest question)

Some systems still use older XZ that is not multi-threaded. But even on systems with newer XZ, 7z is sill faster (especially if you use the "ASMC" compiled version). Also, in my local menu I add "-slp -m0=lzma2 -mx=9 -mfb=256 -md=256m -mlc=4 -ms=on" and get better compression but it was too much for default config ;-)

sha512sum

At least on Mac this doesn't exist, can you use a fallback to shasum -a512 ?

It should be trivial, assuming MacOS has the "which" command.
Is sha256sum also missing?

Last edited 4 months ago by eugenesan (previous) (diff)

comment:7 Changed 4 months ago by eugenesan

Everyone,
If you look closely you will see that I switched to using "7z" instead of '7za', '7zz' etc.
The main reason is that Debian/Ubuntu? already switched from p7zip to 7zip and provide cli only using wrappers (7z, 7za, 7zr, p7zip), actual binaries are not even in the path.

Since I can't check all other Distros and OS's, could you please report which variants of '7z' are available on you system.

Thanks.

comment:8 Changed 4 months ago by zaytsev

It should be trivial, assuming MacOS has the "which" command. Is sha256sum also missing?

zaytsev@Yurys-MBP % which sha256sum
sha256sum not found

Since I can't check all other Distros and OS's, could you please report which variants of '7z' are available on you system.

On macOS only 7zz is provided via the sevenzip homebrew package:

https://formulae.brew.sh/formula/sevenzip

On BSD I think 7z is provided via the p7zip port.

On Red Hat you have 7za via p7zip package.

You can check other distros yourself using the service from our friend Mykola:

https://pkgs.org/search/?q=7zip

comment:9 in reply to: ↑ 6 Changed 4 months ago by eugenesan

Attaching an updated version of the 2nd patch which minor fix and shasum hashing as a default, since it is a part of Perl and should be available by default on more systems(shaXXXsum is the fallback).

Version 0, edited 4 months ago by eugenesan (next)

comment:10 Changed 4 months ago by eugenesan

I just reviewed all 7zip related code and '7za' is used in most places with fallback to 7z in some places and 7z/7zz/7zr in other.

This is what 7zip doc say:

Alone         7za.exe: Standalone version of 7-Zip console that supports only 7z/xz/cab/zip/gzip/bzip2/tar.
Alone2        7zz.exe: Standalone version of 7-Zip console that supports all formats.
Alone7z       7zr.exe: Standalone version of 7-Zip console that supports only 7z (reduced version)

Should we unify that with something like:

P7ZIP=`which 7zz 2>/dev/null` || P7ZIP=`which 7z 2>/dev/null` || P7ZIP=`which 7za 2>/dev/null`

Here is my reasoning:
'7zz' should be the first option since it is an ASM optimized pre-built binary with complete format support
'7z' Non-ASM built equivalent of 7zz and is the default on most modern Linux systems
'7za' if available, is the binary that should support all uses on older and systems with p7zip systems
I think we can drop '7zr' since it is only suitable for .7z archives and I believe no distro/os shipping it alone.

P.S.
I am suprised Fedora and Arch do not ship 7zip package...

Last edited 4 months ago by eugenesan (previous) (diff)

comment:11 Changed 4 months ago by eugenesan

I am attaching a new version of the main (second) patch.
It still uses the default '7z' (until we decide which variant to use).
I also added an option to use ENV variable for compression options.
Those are the values I set in my .profile if anyone is interested:

export COMPRESS_OPTS_7Z="-slp -myx=9 -mx=9 -mfb=256 -md=256m -mlc=4"
export COMPRESS_OPTS_ZSTD="--long --ultra -22"

P.S.
I am having difficulties understanding what "+' and '=' conditions are supposed to do.
By reading documentation, it looks like '+' is only for "showing" menu items and '=' enables/disables the item. But, it doesn't work as I understand it.
It would be nice if anyone could explain how those should be used.

Changed 3 months ago by eugenesan

New version of the patch with 7z binary detection and various fixes

Changed 3 months ago by eugenesan

Updated version of the main patch with more compression options, fixes, improvments and shortcuts reorganization

Changed 3 months ago by eugenesan

Optional patch to add various GUI tools

comment:12 Changed 3 months ago by andrew_b

Related to #3290.

Changed 3 months ago by eugenesan

Updated version of the main patch with various fixes

comment:13 Changed 3 months ago by zaytsev

  • Blocking 2701 added

comment:14 Changed 3 months ago by zaytsev

  • Blocking 3290 added

comment:15 Changed 3 months ago by zaytsev

  • Blocking 3442 added

comment:16 Changed 3 months ago by zaytsev

We had a discussion recently about using command -v instead of which:

https://github.com/search?q=repo%3AMidnightCommander%2Fmc%20%22command%20-v%22&type=code

Otherwise I don't have much to say / strong opinions about menus. I use them very rarely. Are you finished with your work eugenesan?

Andrew, maybe we can take it, apparently it will close a number of open requests like you linked. I can make a branch.

Changed 3 months ago by eugenesan

Updated version of the main patch with "which" replacement and shasum preference reversal (non-perl version is 2x faster)

comment:17 Changed 3 months ago by eugenesan

@zaytsev
I've uploaded a new version with "which" replaced.

I believe the patch is ready and tested.
We still have time before next release, in case people will report bugs.

P.S.
I was wondering, can anyone think of a simple way to pass a shell variable from menu "scriptlet" to input dialog (https://github.com/MidnightCommander/mc/blob/449917f5a4198cc881463e29a5f7b1d0a3e9d19e/src/usermenu.c#L489)?
That would allow to replace all the "echo"/"read" interactions for menu commands with proper input dialog.

comment:18 Changed 3 months ago by zaytsev

I was wondering, can anyone think of a simple way to pass a shell variable from menu "scriptlet" to input dialog

The dialogs are shown before the script is "compiled" to run in the shell. So you cannot do it unless we make a "zenity" mode for mc and the scripts can call mc to show an overlay dialog :) But I'm not sure this is really necessary. You can just say something like press enter for default (basename)... I don't think the variable values add much value.

comment:19 follow-up: ↓ 20 Changed 3 months ago by zaytsev

Those are the values I set in my .profile if anyone is interested

Actually there are official variables XZ_OPT & ZSTD_OPT - is there any particular reason why you use your own?

comment:20 in reply to: ↑ 19 Changed 3 months ago by eugenesan

Replying to zaytsev:

Those are the values I set in my .profile if anyone is interested

Actually there are official variables XZ_OPT & ZSTD_OPT - is there any particular reason why you use your own?

Good point.
According to https://github.com/facebook/zstd/blob/dev/programs/README.md ZSTD offers only ZSTD_CLEVEL and I needed to pass other options. 7zip lacks envvar support completely.

I'd name those differently but didn't want interference and variables cannot start with a number so 7Z_OPT wasn't an option.

I needed a way to be able to change default compression options but didn't want to push those in usermenu directly. Those variable are harmless but can be very useful in usermenu context.
Maybe we should rename those to MC_MENU_*_OPT?

Also, I found a last minute bug and will be pushing a new patch momentarily.

Changed 3 months ago by eugenesan

Last minute fix

Changed 3 months ago by eugenesan

Latest optional patch with addition of GUI tools

comment:21 Changed 2 months ago by zaytsev

  • Milestone changed from Future Releases to 4.8.33

comment:22 Changed 7 weeks ago by zaytsev

The patch 0001-menu-drop-archaic-items-modernize-archival-options-v9.patch doesn't apply at all. Are you sure you're on latest master?

comment:23 Changed 7 weeks ago by eugenesan

There are 2 staged patches:

  1. 0001-menu-Reduce-menu-ittems-width-to-allow-longer-text.patch
  2. 0001-menu-drop-archaic-items-modernize-archival-options-v9.patch

The first touches only the visuals and the second one is the actual patch.
They apply cleanly as of today's master.

comment:24 Changed 7 weeks ago by zaytsev

Thanks for the explanation, I was able to apply the patches and test them.

Sorry, my opinion is that whereas this is solid work and maybe a good menu file for you personally, this is not really suitable for stock mc in this form.

Our old files were designed to make menus mostly fit on 80x24 screens and leave a lot of shortcuts for users to customize. Unfortunately, primarily due to the explosion of compression options, the default options list now looks more like an infiniscroll (see attached screenshot).

What I like though is that you tried to keep the shortcuts of the existing options. This is a good thought. Otherwise there will be a huge backlash as the users discover that their muscle memory now causes mc do random things. We need to consider this.

I wonder what we can do to make it fit on one screen for most users again?

  • One easy victim would be Edit a bug report and send it to root
  • View manual page (native) also doesn't make sense - one can press Ctrl-O and man ... - mc option exists specifically because you might wish to use mc viewer
  • Maybe Call the info hypertext browser can also be removed - how often does one do this these days, and what's the advantage as compared to Ctrl+O and info?
  • Maybe Compress the current subdirectory (tar.7z) can be sacrificed, who needs this anyways if 7z has a native container format?
  • Maybe Compress tagged subdirectories (tar.xz using 7z) can be dropped as well, even though you explained why it's useful?
  • Maybe Test compressed archive/image using 7z can be dropped? How different it is from list?
  • Maybe E can get a long extension list to hide it by default?! Is it feasible?

Even with those changes the options I consider "useful" are still more than before, and the new ones are actually not visible :( I'm at a bit of a loss in terms of more "compression" ideas.

Other notes:

  • Copy file to remote host uses rcp - this doesn't make any sense anymore - change to scp?
  • List compressed archive/image using 7z / Test compressed archive/image using 7z only use 7z as fallback, so remove from title and put next to 7z command, if tar -taf is used for tar.*?
  • Same logic applies to all commands that don't necessarily rely on 7z, like Extract compressed tar archive
  • Shortcut for "View Manual Page" changed?
  • t and T should be t and l

I really tried to make it as close to acceptable as possible, but for now I'm exhausted... Just to show what the current state looks like:

Branch: 4571_modernize_usermenu
Initial changeset:98575a55578129ecefd8eead1a4cbc49abbd1877

comment:25 Changed 7 weeks ago by zaytsev

Some shortcuts are still changed as compared to original. I wonder if I should take a different strategy if you are not interested in adjusting this to stock requirements - just try to remove myself what I think is not useful, and pick from you what I think is useful...

Changed 7 weeks ago by zaytsev

comment:26 Changed 7 weeks ago by andrew_b

  • src/usermenu.c

    diff --git a/src/usermenu.c b/src/usermenu.c
    index 1ec961153..9bc4db4cd 100644
    a b user_menu_cmd (const Widget *edit_widget, const char *menu_file, int selected_en 
    11461146            max_cols = MIN (MAX (max_cols, col), MAX_ENTRY_LEN); 
    11471147 
    11481148            /* Create listbox */ 
    1149             listbox = listbox_window_new (entries->len, max_cols + 2, _("User menu"), 
    1150                                           "[Edit Menu File]"); 
     1149            listbox = listbox_window_new (MIN (entries->len, LINES - 6), max_cols + 2, 
     1150                                          _("User menu"), "[Edit Menu File]"); 
    11511151            /* insert all the items found */ 
    11521152            for (i = 0; i < entries->len; i++) 
    11531153            { 

comment:27 Changed 7 weeks ago by eugenesan

Thank you for the feedback.

Following your ideas, I am thinking about:

  1. Where 7z is a separate item, I am going to use 7z if available and fallback to default compressor
  2. I am going to reorganize the items so that the most frequent ones are in the first 18 (number of items visible at 80x24).
  3. Review all the shortcuts/items and make sure they are as close to classic ones as possible.

I think I can remove ~6 items.

Also, we should consider fixing/implementing one of the following:

  1. Combining two menu items by making one of them hidden. For example:
      x Do action (X for verbose)
    
    instead of:
      x Do action
      X Do verbose action
    
    According to the manual this should be possible but I could not make it work. Maybe someone can take a look?
  2. Some kind of "prompt" asking for a secondary choice like list compression option, verbose/non-verbose, test/list etc.
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