id summary reporter owner description type status priority milestone component version resolution keywords cc blockedby blocking branch_state votes 1619 "Problem with ""preserve attributes"", file times and ntfs/vfat partitions" bilbo slavazanko "In changeset 78f01a3a9ae7ef8b91c7541edd4760ac5a0d3f8f there was added detection of filesystem and defaulting to turning off ""preserve attributes"" on certain FS (ntfs, vfat and some others) I guess this is because chown and sometimes even chmod can fail on these filesystems, resulting in many annoying messageboxes ""chown failed on "" or alike. Unfortunately, this turns off preserving timestamp as well, which is VERY bad. Before I noticed this behavior, this managed to do some damage (mtimes of many backed up files got lost, so I needed to recreate those backups again). Suggested fix: 1. always copy time/date of files 2. There are more attributes for files (mtime, ctime, permissions, owner, group, possibly some ACL on some systems), so add once checkbox for date/time, one for permissions and one for owner/group. Perhaps another for ACL, once (if) they'll be supported in MC. 3. have ""preserve attributes"" checked on always by default, but add ""ignore failure to set all attributes"" checkbox. This would solve also cases where another new ""simple"" filesystem without support for chmod/chgrp/chown appears, like recent ex-fat. Or perhaps somewhat combine these solutions." defect closed major 4.7.0-pre3 mc-core master fixed mrmazda@… committed-master